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Spotlight on ... South African Ponies
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South African Ponies

[img]http://www.mlparena.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=362901&g2[/img]%20 *picture%20pinkkittywinks Very%20little%20is%20known%20about%20South%20African%20ponies.%20This%20spotlight%20aims%20to%20bring%20together%20the%20little%20that%20is%20known%20about%20these%20rare%20and%20strange%20looking%20ponies.%20 Before%20I%20begin%20I%20would%20like%20to%20say%20an%20extra%20special%20thank%20you%20to%20Stormy31685%20and%20Kasin%20for%20helping%20me%20with%20this%20spotlight,%20for%20answering%20all%20my%20questions%20and%20for%20letting%20me%20use%20their%20pictures. I%20will%20refer%20to%20South%20African%20ponies%20as%20SA%20ponies%20through%20out%20the%20spotlight. Where%20are%20South%20African%20ponies%20from? South%20African%20ponies%20were%20sold%20by%20Prima%20Toys,%20a%20South%20African%20toy%20company.%20This%20company%20is%20still%20going%20today%20and%20is%20one%20of%20the%20distributors%20of%20G3%20My%20Little%20Pony%20line%20in%20South%20Africa. Many%20Nirvana%20ponies%20were%20made%20by%20local%20toy%20companies%20under%20the%20name%20of%20Hasbro.%20For%20example,%20El%20Greco%20produced%20the%20Greek%20ponies,%20Auriken%20produced%20the%20Mexican%20NC%20ponies%20and%20DAG%20produced%20the%20Italian%20ponies.%20One%20could%20say%20that%20the%20SA%20ponies%20fit%20into%20this%20category%20in%20that%20the%20ponies%20made%20by%20a%20local%20toy%20company%20under%20Hasbro.%20However%20the%20back%20card%20does%20not%20state%20where%20the%20ponies%20were%20made%20only%20the%20name%20of%20the%20company%20Prima%20Toys. This%20theory%20of%20the%20ponies%20being%20locally%20made%20in%20South%20Africa%20doesn't%20quite%20fit%20with%20the%20SA%20ponies'%20hoof%20markings.%20South%20African%20ponies'%20hooves%20are%20marked%20\"made%20in%20Hong%20Kong\".%20The%20hoof%20markings%20are%20barely%20legible%20but%20you%20can%20still%20make%20it%20out.%20One%20could%20argue%20that%20it%20has%20been%20badly%20blanked%20out%20as%20is%20the%20case%20with%20some%20no%20country%20ponies.%20 Another%20line%20of%20thought%20is%20that%20the%20SA%20ponies%20weren't%20actually%20licensed.%20It%20is%20possible%20that%20a%20mould%20was%20made%20using%20a%20Hong%20Kong%20pony%20and%20that%20this%20mould%20was%20used%20to%20produce%20a%20line%20of%20\"My%20Little%20Ponys'\".%20That%20may%20explain%20why%20they%20still%20have%20the%20Hong%20Kong%20under%20their%20feet.%20*kasin In%20conclusion%20one%20can%20see%20that%20there%20is%20still%20no%20concrete%20evidence%20that%20SA%20ponies%20were%20actually%20made%20in%20South%20Africa.%20 Were%20these%20the%20only%20ponies%20to%20be%20sold%20in%20South%20Africa? As%20well%20as%20the%20strange%20SA%20ponies%20South%20Africa%20is%20known%20to%20have%20got%20the%20NSS%20Truly%20and%20NSS%20Cupcake%20as%20well%20as%20a%20whole%20host%20of%20other%20regular%20release%20ponies.%20*ladyg Where%20have%20South%20African%20ponies%20been%20found? Loose%20South%20African%20ponies%20have%20been%20found%20in%20the%20UK,%20South%20Africa,%20Germany,%20the%20Netherlands,%20Australia%20and%20the%20USA.%20 Who%20are%20the%20South%20African%20ponies? All%20the%20SA%20ponies%20which%20have%20been%20found%20so%20far%20are%20from%20year%202%20and%20it%20possible%20that%20the%20whole%20of%20the%20year%202%20line%20was%20produced%20and%20sold.%20*kasin Here%20is%20an%20illustrated%20list%20of%20the%20following%20variants%20which%20have%20been%20found%20so%20far: Earth [img]http://www.mlparena.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=362917&g2[/img]%20 Bubbles%20(yellow%20with%20blue%20hair)%20*thank%20you%20stormy31685 [img]http://www.mlparena.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=362905&g2[/img]%20 Applejack%20(orange%20with%20yellow%20hair)%20*thank%20you%20kasin%20 Seashell%20(green%20with%20green%20hair)%20(this%20is%20the%20only%20variant%20of%20seashell%20in%20a%20standing%20pose) Bowtie%20(dark%20blue%20with%20pink%20hair)%20(known%20to%20exist%20but%20no%20picture%20available) Rainbow [img]http://www.mlparena.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=362943&g2[/img]%20 Sunlight%20(green%20with%20rainbow%20hair)%20*picture%20pinkkittywinks [img]http://www.mlparena.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=362913&g2[/img]%20 Windy%20(white%20with%20rainbow%20hair)*thank%20you%20kasin %20 Moonstone%20(no%20description%20available)%20(No%20picture%20available) Pegasus%20and%20Unicorn [img]http://www.mlparena.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=362895&g2[/img]%20 Moondancer%20(white%20with%20pink%20and%20yellow%20hair)%20*thank%20you%20louhma [img]http://www.mlparena.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=362893&g2[/img]%20 Medley%20(yellow%20with%20blue%20hair)%20*thank%20you%20kcat Playset%20 Sprinkles%20(white%20with%20red%20hair)%20(No%20picture%20available) As%20one%20can%20see%20most%20of%20the%20SA%20ponies%20resemble%20their%20HK%20cousins,%20however%20there%20are%20others%20who%20look%20completely%20different.%20For%20example,%20Medley%20is%20bright%20yellow%20instead%20of%20green%20and%20Seashell%20is%20in%20a%20standing%20pose%20instead%20of%20sitting. What%20makes%20them%20special? The%20Body. [img]http://www.mlparena.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=362890&g2[/img]%20 *thank%20you%20kasin%20 If%20you%20look%20at%20a%20SA%20pony%20you%20will%20notice%20they%20look%20a%20bit%20odd.%20This%20is%20because%20they%20are%20made%20up%20of%20different%20pony%20body%20parts!%20In%20fact%20they%20only%20ponies%20that%20have%20the%20matching%20head%20and%20body%20from%20the%20same%20mould%20are%20Moondancer%20and%20Medley! Bubbles,%20Applejack,%20Bowtie%20and%20Sunlight%20all%20have%20Moondancer�s%20walking%20pose%20body%20and%20Firefly's%20open%20mouth%20head!!!%20 Seashell%20has%20a%20Moonstone's%20proud%20pose%20body%20and%20a%20Firefly%20open%20mouth%20head. Windy%20has%20a%20Moonstone's%20head%20and%20a%20Moondancer�s%20walking%20pose%20body. The%20plastic%20body%20of%20a%20SA%20ponies%20is%20VERY%20hard.%20 The%20Hair. The%20hair%20is%20similar%20in%20texture%20to%20Brazilian%20ponies%20in%20that%20it%20is%20very%20fine%20and%20frizzes.%20The%20hair%20colours%20also%20appear%20to%20be%20unique%20to%20SA%20ponies%20too%20(I%20have%20yet%20to%20find%20an%20exact%20hair%20match%20for%20my%20SA%20Sunlight%20with%20any%20other%20MLP%20pony)%20All%20the%20SA%20ponies%20appear%20to%20have%20long%20flowing%20manes%20that%20go%20right%20down%20to%20their%20hooves%20and%20quite%20a%20long%20tail.%20 The%20most%20noticeable%20and%20unique%20feature%20though%20is%20their%20rooted%20tail!%20Instead%20of%20having%20a%20single%20tail%20hole%20with%20a%20tail%20held%20together%20by%20a%20washer%20like%20all%20other%20ponies,%20they%20have%20a%20stitched%20tail%20instead.%20The%20tail%20of%20a%20SA%20pony%20is%20rooted%20in%20the%20same%20way%20as%20a%20pony%20mane.%20 [img]http://www.mlparena.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=362903&g2[/img] *picture%20pinkkittywinks It%20has%20also%20been%20noticed%20that%20some%20SA%20ponies%20shed%20their%20hair%20very%20easily%20when%20brushed%20and%20others%20do%20not.%20 Hoof%20Markings. South%20African%20ponies%20are%20all%20marked%20��%2083%20Hasbro%20Pat%20Pend.%20Hong%20Kong�%20the%20hoof%20markings%20are%20only%20just%20legible,%20compared%20with%20a%20normal%20Hong%20Kong%20pony. [img]http://www.mlparena.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=362908&g2[/img]%20 *picture%20pinkkittywinks Hoof%20markings%20can%20be%20misleading.%20Mexican,%20Spanish,%20Greek%20and%20Argentinean%20ponies%20can%20all%20have%20no%20country%20stamp%20markings%20on%20their%20feet%20and%20it%20is%20only%20by%20looking%20at%20the%20ponies'%20features%20that%20can%20one%20identify%20their%20country%20of%20origin.%20Despite%20being%20marked%20Hong%20Kong%20it%20is%20clear%20that%20this%20is%20not%20a%20normal%20Hong%20Kong%20pony! As%20mentioned%20earlier%20In%20this%20spotlight%20one%20could%20argue%20that%20due%20to%20the%20illegibility%20of%20the%20stamp%20it%20could%20have%20been%20badly%20blanked%20out%20as%20is%20the%20case%20with%20some%20no%20country%20ponies%20or%20that%20the%20HK%20stamp%20was%20just%20left%20or%20forgotten%20about.%20 Eyes All%20the%20South%20African%20ponies%20that%20have%20been%20discovered%20so%20far%20all%20have%20blue%20eyes.%20The%20pupil,%20eyeliner%20and%20eye%20lashes%20on%20all%20known%20ponies%20are%20black.%20The%20eyes%20are%20very%20different%20to%20Hong%20Kong%20eyes%20which%20are%20cleanly%20printed%20on.%20South%20African%20pony%20eyes%20are%20very%20fuzzy%20looking%20as%20if%20they%20have%20been%20air%20brushed%20on.%20The%20only%20ponies%20that%20have%20similar%20style%20eyes%20to%20a%20South%20African%20pony%20are%20Italian%20ponies%20with%20airbrushed%20eyes. [img]http://www.mlparena.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=362898&g2[/img]%20 HK%20Sunlight%20and%20SA%20Sunlight%20eye%20comparison%20*picture%20pinkkittywinks [img]http://www.mlparena.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=362915&g2[/img]%20 SA%20Sunlight%20and%20Italy%20Minty%20with%20airbrushed%20eyes%20eye%20comparison%20*thank%20you%20so%20silver%20for%20Italian%20Minty%20with%20airbrushed%20eyes Symbols The%20symbol%20of%20the%20SA%20ponies%20only%20resembles%20their%20HK%20cousins%20in%20passing.%20They%20are%20printed%20on%20in%20one%20block%20colour%20and%20are%20quite%20small%20in%20scale.%20 [img]http://www.mlparena.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=362911&g2[/img]
Comparison of SA Sunlight and HK Sunlight's symbols *picture pinkkittywinks

Conclusion

From looking closely at South African ponies, one can see that they are unique in the world of MLP; though they still do bare a passing resemblance to their Hong Kong cousins. There stand out features include their mixed up poses and a rooted tail. Like many Nirvana ponies such as Greek and Mexican ponies it is thought that SA ponies were made by a local toy company under the Hasbro name, however there is still no hard evidence that SA ponies were actually made in South Africa.

Prices
As SA ponies are so few and far between so it is very hard to give a price range. They could sell for anything between $100 and $1000 plus.

Links

Seashell's page
wave.prohosting.com/ka...iePage.htm

My Little Pony Collector

www.mylittleponycollec...ponies.htm

Kasin's SA Pictures
smg.photobucket.com/al...k/African/


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Thanks so much pinkkittywinks!+help! the spotlight is fab...I hadn't seen the AJ one...she's gorgeous!!!

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Yay thank you so much PKW I love SAs Smile So mysterious..

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Yay! so much beautiful ponies!! I love the SA ones, but I dont own one myself (yet, I WILL have one, one day :P)

Thanks for the spotlight! Its great! Happy

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Great Spot and lots of work
Thank You PKW for putting it together
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Wow!! How interesting!!! Thank you PKW for the hard work and the explaination on SA ponies!!! Love the pics and thx for those who provided pics. I learned a lot reading this!!! How COOL!!! Happy

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yet again, ANOTHER bunch of ponies to add to the ever-increasing want list... very informative page, thankyou!

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wow look at that bubbles and moondancer
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wonderful spotlight, I love these so much. Thank you for making it. ^.^

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Oooo neat spot light Smile the south aftericans are odd ponies!

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Big thanks to pinkkittywinks and contributers Kasin and Stormy31685. I really enjoyed reading it! I learned a lot since I didn't know much about these gorgeous ponies.

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Woot for SA spotlight! Thanks so much for putting this together! Clapper I'm still after that elusive SA Moonstone photo though... Big Ups *has yet to see her*

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I'm convinced that SA ponies are hasbro knock offs... but regardless, they're interesting.

Thanks for all the info and awesome pics Happy


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I'm not so sure... Prima Toys are the distributers of the G3s in South Africa - why would Hasbro give that contract to a company that had ripped them off big time in the 80s?

Piggy ponies were once thought to be fake. If they can be legitimate, why not these? Wink

Great spotlight, pkw! Big Ups

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How cool! Thanks for the info... It's very interesting!

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