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Spotlight on: ITALIAN PONIES!
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Mio Mini Pony: the world of MLPs made in Italy
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MLPs%20made%20in%20Italy%20are%20among%20the%20most%20popular%20Nirvana%20ponies.%20They%20range%20from%20fairly%20inexpensive%20and%20common%20(such%20a%20Italian%20Peachy)%20to%20extremely%20rare%20and%20sought%20after%20(such%20as%20blue%20Posey),%20making%20them%20attractive%20to%20both%20the%20new%20Nirvana%20enthusiast%20and%20the%20hard-core%20collector.%20 But%20who%20are%20they,%20really? A%20brief%20history: Ponies%20made%20in%20Italy,%20or%20IT%20ponies%20for%20short,%20are%20a%20line%20of%20early%20ponies%20made%20in%20Italy%20under%20Hasbro%20license%20approximately%20between%201983%20and%201987.%20They%20were%20made%20in%20factories%20in%20various%20Italian%20locations%20(hence%20the%20large%20number%20of%20variants%20among%20them!),%20and%20were%20distributed%20in%20Italy%20by%20DAG%20(Distribuzione%20Associata%20Giocattoli).%20 [IMG]http://www.mlparena.com/gallery2/d/351600-3/MIB+copy.jpg?[/IMG]%20[IMG]http://www.mlparena.com/gallery2/d/351602-1/MOC+copy.jpg?[/IMG] -%20Typical%20DAG%20boxes%20and%20cards%20-
In%201987%20DAG%20stopped%20distributing%20ponies%20made%20in%20Italy,%20and%20started%20distributing%20ponies%20made%20in%20Hong%20Kong%20and%20China%20instead.%20So,%20many%20ponies%20sold%20at%20that%20time%20share%20the%20same,%20unique%20DAG-type%20box%20of%20early%20ponies%20made%20in%20Italy,%20although%20they%20are%20actually%20not%20Italians%20in%20the%20strict%20sense,%20but%20made%20in%20Hong%20Kong%20or%20China. [IMG]http://www.mlparena.com/gallery2/d/351598-1/MIB2+copy.jpg?[/IMG] -%20Princesses,%20boy%20ponies,%20flutters,%20baby%20ponies%20etc%20came%20in%20DAG%20boxes%20 but%20were%20actually%20made%20in%20Hong%20Kong%20or%20China!%20- Not%20much%20later,%20DAG%20closed%20and%20all%20later%20ponies%20were%20imported%20and%20came%20in%20Hasbro%20packages.%20%20 Ponies%20made%20in%20Italy%20were%20distributed%20in%20several%20European%20countries,%20including%20France,%20Germany,%20Austria,%20Italy,%20Belgium,%20the%20Netherlands,%20Scandinavia.%20 However,%20several%20of%20them%20were%20exclusive%20to%20Italy%20and%20were%20never%20sold%20in%20other%20countries,%20including%20Re%20Unicorno%20(a%20male%20counterpart%20to%20Majesty,%20available%20in%20Italy%20with%20the%20Castle%20playset)%20or%20so-called%20hybrid%20collector%20ponies%20(whose%20colours%20are%20different%20compared%20to%20their%20Hong%20Kong%20counterparts,%20i.e.%20magenta%20Blossom,%20brown%20Peachy,%20yellow%20Minty).%20As%20a%20consequence,%20these%20exclusives%20are%20some%20of%20the%20rarest%20(and%20often,%20prettiest)%20Nirvana%20ponies. Now,%20how%20do%20you%20recognize%20a%20pony%20made%20in%20Italy? Features: [IMG]http://www.mlparena.com/gallery2/d/352223-1/ponysample+copy.jpg?[/IMG] With%20a%20little%20practice,%20Italian%20ponies%20are%20usually%20easy%20to%20identify.%20 [IMG]http://www.mlparena.com/gallery2/d/351596-1/marksonhooves+copy.jpg?[/IMG] 1%20marks%20on%20hooves Italian%20ponies%20ALWAYS%20have%20Italy%20carved%20(as%20opposed%20to%20printed,%20such%20as%20on%20other%20ponies)%20on%20their%20hooves.%20Italian%20ponies%20in%20the%20collector%20pose%20(1982%20pose)%20may%20have%20marks%20on%20two%20hooves%20only%20or%20on%20all%20four,%20and%20may%20or%20may%20not%20have%20the%20PAT%20PEND%20mark%20printed%20on%20them. [IMG]http://www.mlparena.com/gallery2/d/351590-1/eyes+copy.jpg?[/IMG] 2%20eyes Regardless%20what%20colour%20their%20Hong%20Kong%20counterpart's%20eyes%20are,%20Italian%20ponies%20always%20have%20blue%20eyes.%20Typically,%20most%20Italians%20have%20cyan%20blue%20eyes,%20however%20a%20limited%20number%20of%20ponies%20in%20the%20collector%20pose%20have%20light%20blue%20eyes%20(Macau-like%20eyes)%20or%20turquoise%20green%20eyes.%20Please%20note%20in%20such%20ponies,%20not%20only%20the%20eye%20colour%20is%20different,%20but%20also%20the%20mold%20used,%20hair%20and%20other%20features,%20making%20them%20not%20mere%20factory%20faults,%20but%20actual%20variants%20(see%20the%20classification%20below%20about%20bodies) [IMG]http://www.mlparena.com/gallery2/d/352219-1/no-forelock+copy.jpg?[/IMG] 3%20forelock All%20Italian%20ponies%20lack%20a%20forelock,%20and%20have%20two%20plugs%20of%20hair%20on%20their%20forehead%20instead%20of%20one%20of%20the%20same%20length%20of%20the%20rest%20of%20their%20mane%20 [IMG]http://www.mlparena.com/gallery2/d/352231-1/symbol+copy.jpg?[/IMG] 4%20symbol Their%20symbol%20is%20often%20different%20in%20design,%20size%20or%20shape%20compared%20to%20their%20counterparts%20made%20in%20Hong%20Kong,%20and%20there%20are%20frequently%20many%20variants%20of%20the%20same%20pony%20with%20noticeably%20different%20symbols%20(including%20larger,%20fewer%20or%20more%20elements,%20reverse,%20different%20colour,%20etc).%20 [IMG]http://www.mlparena.com/gallery2/d/352209-1/limone_symbol-res-1+copy.jpg?[/IMG] Unicorns%20and%20pegasi%20do%20not%20have%20a%20glittery%20symbol,%20but%20a%20metallic,%20painted-on%20symbol.%20In%20particular,%20gold%20and%20silver%20paint%20is%20prone%20to%20fading%20and%20often%20such%20ponies%20have%20a%20greenish%20symbol%20(e.g.%20Starshine,%20Sunbeam,%20Sunlight) [IMG]http://www.mlparena.com/gallery2/d/352239-1/washer+copy.jpg?[/IMG] 5%20tail%20washer Italian%20ponies%20do%20NOT%20have%20a%20washer!%20The%20tail%20is%20secured%20with%20a%20thread%20and%20pressed%20in%20a%20small%20metal%20cylinder. [IMG]http://www.mlparena.com/gallery2/d/351585-1/differentmolds+copy.jpg?[/IMG] 6%20body Ponies%20made%20in%20Italy%20are%20usually%20well-manufactured.%20However,%20pink%20ponies%20(such%20as%20Twilight,%20Cotton%20Candy,%20Parasol%20and%20Wavebreaker)%20are%20prone%20to%20severe%20fading.%20Fading%20is%20so%20severe%20that%20it%20sometimes%20leads%20collectors%20to%20think%20they%20have%20found%20a%20variant! [IMG]http://www.mlparena.com/gallery2/d/352199-1/fading+copy.jpg?[/IMG] -%20Checking%20inside%20a%20pony's%20neck%20is%20a%20good%20trick%20if%20you%20are%20unsure%20whether%20it%20is%20faded%20or%20not!%20%20-%20 It%20is%20also%20noticeable%20that%20Italian%20collector%20ponies%20were%20made%20in%20four%20different%20molds.%20The%20most%20common%20of%20these%20are%20the%20regular%20and%20the%20hunchback%20molds.%20Regular%20Italian%20collector%20ponies%20look%20very%20similar%20to%20their%20counterparts%20made%20in%20Hong%20Kong,%20while%20hunchbacks%20have%20feet%20wide%20apart,%20marks%20on%20two%20hooves%20only%20and%20no%20PAT%20PEND.%20So-called%20hunchbacks%20were%20likely%20made%20later%20and%20many%20rare%20hybrids%20come%20in%20this%20mold.%20 [IMG]http://www.mlparena.com/gallery2/d/351592-1/hunchback+copy.jpg?[/IMG] -%20Examples%20of%20\"hunchback\"%20ponies%20-%20 There%20are%20then%20two%20harder%20to%20find%20collector%20pony%20types,%20i.e.%20the%20dwarf%20mold%20and%20the%20Macau-like.%20As%20the%20nickname%20suggests,%20dwarf%20Italian%20collector%20ponies%20are%20smaller%20than%20regular%20ones,%20have%20a%20lower%20neck%20and%20look%20very%20similar%20to%20HK%20flat-footed%20ponies,%20except%20they%20have%20concave%20hooves.%20They%20are%20the%20better%20manufactured%20of%20all%20Italian%20ponies,%20and%20they%20have%20either%20cyan%20blue%20or%20greenish/turquoise%20eyes.%20 [IMG]http://www.mlparena.com/gallery2/d/351588-1/dwarves+copy.jpg?[/IMG] -%20Some%20\"dwarf\"%20Italian%20ponies%20-%20 Finally,%20Macau-like%20ponies%20look%20extremely%20similar%20to%20Macau%20collector%20ponies:%20they%20have%20the%20same%20long%20and%20slender%20legs,%20long,%20thick%20hair,%20and%20always%20have%20light%20blue%20eyes.%20The%20reason%20of%20this%20similarity%20is%20a%20mystery%20yet%20to%20solve.%20They%20are%20extremely%20rare.%20 [IMG]http://www.mlparena.com/gallery2/d/352211-1/macau-like+copy.jpg?[/IMG] -%20Examples%20of%20\"Macau-like\"%20Italian%20ponies%20-%20 A%20list%20of%20all%20ponies%20made%20in%20Italy: Italian%20ponies%20are%20fascinating,%20but%20not%20many%20of%20them%20were%20made.%20In%20fact,%20only%20the%20early%20sets%20were%20made%20in%20Italy.%20Luckly,%20there%20are%20many%20variants%20to%20them,%20making%20a%20total%20of%20over%20100%20Italian%20ponies%20to%20collect! Collector%20ponies Blossom Bluebelle Butterscotch Cotton%20Candy Minty Snuzzle Lemondrop%20(sold%20with%20Stable%20playset) Peachy%20(sold%20with%20Parlor%20playset) (See%20the%20section%20below%20for%20hybrids%20and%20collector%20pony%20variants) Early%20ponies%20(US-like) Applejack Bow-Tie Bubbles Seashell Cherries%20Jubilee Lickety-Split Posey Tootsie [IMG]http://www.mlparena.com/gallery2/d/352213-1/melaniaandtimmy+copy.jpg?[/IMG][IMG]http://www.mlparena.com/gallery2/d/352203-1/itearthponies-res+copy.jpg?[/IMG] Early%20ponies%20(UK-like) Applejack%20(collector%20pose) Bow-tie%20(collector%20pose) Snowflake Hopscotch [IMG]http://www.mlparena.com/gallery2/d/352233-1/TimmyandMelania+copy.jpg?[/IMG]%20 Unicorns%20&%20pegasi%20(set%201) Moondancer Glory Twilight Sunbeam Medley Firefly [IMG]http://www.mlparena.com/gallery2/d/352237-1/unispegs1+copy.jpg?[/IMG] Unicorns%20&%20pegasi%20(set%202) Sparkler Powder Skyflier Gusty Heart%20throb Surprise [IMG]http://www.mlparena.com/gallery2/d/352235-1/unipegs2+copy.jpg?[/IMG] Rainbow%20ponies%20(set%201) Starshine Skydancer Parasol Sunlight Moonstone Windy [IMG]http://www.mlparena.com/gallery2/d/352225-1/rainbowset1+copy.jpg?[/IMG] Rainbow%20ponies%20(set%202) Pinwheel Starflower Trickles Confetti Tickle Flutterbye [IMG]http://www.mlparena.com/gallery2/d/352227-1/rainbowset2+copy.jpg?[/IMG] Sea%20ponies Sea%20Spray Surf%20Rider Wavedancer [IMG]http://www.mlparena.com/gallery2/d/352205-1/itseaponies-res+copy.jpg?[/IMG] Variants,%20oddities%20and%20exclusives: There%20are%20then%20a%20variety%20of%20ponies%20made%20in%20Italy%20that%20do%20not%20have%20a%20counterpart%20made%20in%20Hong%20Kong.%20 The%20most%20famous%20of%20them%20is%20probably%20Re%20Unicorno,%20a%20white%20unicorn%20with%20blue%20hair%20and%20a%20bunch%20of%20stars%20as%20his%20symbol,%20which%20was%20meant%20as%20an%20alternate%20to%20Majesty%20and%20sold%20in%20Italy%20with%20the%20Castle.%20He%20came%20in%20two%20different%20versions,%20in%20the%20high-stepping%20pose%20(Glory's%20pose)%20and%20walking%20pose%20(Moondancer's%20pose).%20 [IMG]http://www.mlparena.com/gallery2/d/352229-1/reunicorno+copy.jpg?[/IMG] Other%20exclusives%20include%20blue%20Posey%20and%20blue%20Lickety-split,%20white%20Snuzzle%20(the%20first%20Italian%20issue%20of%20Snuzzle,%20later%20she%20was%20made%20gray)%20and%20Sparkler%20as%20an%20earth%20pony. [IMG]http://www.mlparena.com/gallery2/d/352241-1/itbluevariantsmoc-res+copy.jpg?[/IMG][IMG]http://www.mlparena.com/gallery2/d/352221-1/polly+copy.jpg?[/IMG] Some%20rainbow%20ponies%20from%20the%20first%20set%20were%20released%20again%20with%20the%20second%20rainbow%20set%20and%20this%20second%20edition%20often%20varies:%20Parasol%20and%20Starshine%20were%20given%20alternate%20colours%20in%20their%20hair,%20while%20Moonstone%20came%20in%20a%20different%20pose.%20there%20are%20also%20two%20version%20of%20sunlight,%20one%20with%20freckles%20(rarer)%20and%20one%20without.%20 [IMG]http://www.mlparena.com/gallery2/d/352197-1/alternaterainbowhair+copy.jpg?[/IMG] Although%20Moonstone%20is%20known%20in%20two%20poses,%20the%20only%20known%20version%20of%20Windy%20is%20in%20the%20walking%20pose.%20 [IMG]http://www.mlparena.com/gallery2/d/352217-1/moonstone-it-res+copy.jpg?[/IMG] Both%20versions%20of%20Moondancer%20(yellow%20and%20white)%20were%20made%20in%20Italy.%20By%20contrast,%20Tootsie%20was%20likely%20only%20made%20as%20a%20white%20pony.%20 [IMG]http://www.mlparena.com/gallery2/d/352215-1/moondancer-it-res+copy.jpg?[/IMG] [IMG]http://www.mlparena.com/gallery2/d/352207-1/ittootsie-res-1+copy.jpg?[/IMG] -%20Italian%20Tootsie%20is%20supposed%20to%20be%20a%20white%20pony.%20The%20only%20known%20variant%20to%20her%20has%20purple%20hair%20instead%20of%20blue%20-%20 A%20wide%20range%20of%20ponies%20in%20the%20collector%20pose%20were%20made%20in%20Italy%20in%20alternate%20colours.%20these%20popular%20but%20rare%20variants%20are%20known%20as%20hybrids%20because%20they%20often%20combine%20features%20of%20two%20or%20more%20ponies.%20 [IMG]http://www.mlparena.com/gallery2/d/352201-1/hybrids-res+copy.jpg?[/img]
- A selection of exclusive Italian collector ponies -

Did you know?

Many Italian ponies were intended to be male ponies, and instead of mommies and babies the Italian line had uncles/aunties and nieces/nephews.

The Italian line is one the richest and most fascinating international MLP lines. Unique boxes and cards, a wide range of variants and exclusive, make it the perfect goal for both MIB enthusiasts and variant addicts!


Source: Roswita's Once upon a Rainbow / www.miominipony.com

PS thanks a bunch to Brigetsmum and LadyG. for this opportunity to talk about... my favourite obsession! Poke Tounge

(edit to add water marked pictures love pkw Smile )
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Wow, Ros, that was really informative! I never knew there was so much to know about Italians!
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Wow! What a great information post! I have many of those Italians since my childhood but I love the Hybrids. Sparkler in collectors pose is just stunning!!!

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wow, great Ros! Smile As there isnt a gallery for italy ponies here at the arena ive been a bit at loss as i was curious to know how many of these collectors pose color varients there were. Awesome, thanks Smile

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Wonderful Spotlight Roswita! So many drool-worthy ponies! Very informative too - I've never seen Italian packaging before - and I've always wondered why there are so many Italian variants. Now I know! Happy

Trish - if you look under Main Galleries, the Nirvana Gallery is there! Here is a link for ya hun,

www.mlparena.com/galle.../album256/

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Yeah i know were it is, i checked several times for the italy gallery but i must have missed it! Look Round

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Very informative, thank you. ^.^

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Totaly Awsome Spot Roz worshippy

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Super!!!!! Very informative!! Now I know what one of my Italian Minty's is. She is the Macau-like one. I kept staring at her and thinking: it says Italian on the hoof, but I swear this could be Macau!

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I want me some Italians!!! On Fire

Thanks so much Roz. This is like eye candy. I love your site too! You should be very proud. It's a great resource to the community.

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Oh! Very interesting!! Happy Great info! Thanks!

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WOW!!! thanks so much for all this! that is so interesting, I finally see the difference between hunchback, dwarves and regular ponies!

thanks a lot!

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Ooh, I love Italians! I have to come back later and drool over this some more. Thanks for the info!

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Another awesome spotlight. It's great learning about the manufacturing of the ponies Smile

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I have a question: why do the eyes of the Italian ponies look like they were misplaced? BethyVic

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